PvE to PvP - Guild Wars Forums

phallanxian · Jan 10, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

whats the best way to go from pve to pvp play such as

professions to start with as i currently have a warrior
where to play RA ect
where to find builds and any other tips

any help would be appreciated

Neo Nugget · Jan 10, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31

use www.guildwarswiki.com

then use builds section.

Lets Get to Healing · Jan 10, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Fort Aspenwood is a great place to start PvP.

B Ephekt · Jan 10, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

To be honest, most of the pvp builds on the wiki are complete garbage. I wouldn't rely on that to get an idea of what's being run in pvp at a given time.

Watching observer mode for the specific format you're interested in (HA or GvG) would be a much better alternative. Aside from that, actually posting in the pvp section of this website would probably help greatly as well.

Earendil · Jan 10, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

If you're really a PvP beginner, my suggestion would be to start at the Great temple of Balthazar then do the wholed tutorial stuff up to Zaishen challenge. Those NPCs have a lot more patience then most PCs

and you have a lot to learn from them. Then move to Ra, be prepared to take a lot of flak and learn from what other people are playing ..from there on its very variable ....

Be ready to change. As a basic idea - you cannot do in PvP what you did in PvE - especially Warrior wise. Forget the concept of "tank". And please don't bring mending

- you would get laughed at and its bad for morale.

Be prepared to make a PvP char and toy a bit with the options.

Observer mode is great if you want to turn "serious" about PvP.

RotteN · Jan 10, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

most of the builds on guildwiki are indeed utter crap.

best way to "start" pvp is in lowlevel arena's, either Random arena or competitive missions like Fort Aspenwood.

also, forums like iQ's forum ( http://www.team-iq.net ) have a lot of valuable pvp information, and you can always go ask any questions about mechanics / equipment / ... there aswell (use search first though, it might have been asked before)

gul dan · Jan 10, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

read PvP Primer and State of the Game

there are some helpful articles there =]

Lord Mendes · Jan 10, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Build up PvP contacts and friends. This is essential if you want to get anywhere.

Franco Power · Jan 10, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Best advice I can give it to you aswel is be patient and prepare to be dedicated.

Infectious · Jan 11, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Don't get stressed when you fail at something, step back, ask somone why you failed/figure it out yourself, learn from it, rinse and repeat.
*This won't work in random arena*

Zoo X · Jan 11, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

Best advice I can give it to you aswel is be patient and prepare to be dedicated.

really good advice, stick to it.

Infectious · Jan 11, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Don't get stressed when you fail at something, step back, ask somone why you failed/figure it out yourself, learn from it, rinse and repeat.
*This won't work in random arena*

bart · Jan 11, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

don't get angry and frustrated when PVP ppl don't want to group with you and call you a noob.

Jeff Highwind · Jan 11, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Best way to prep for PvP as a PvE ( aka My experience)

1. Grab Green weaponry spec'd to your current build.
2. Play RA enough to just unlock TA
3. Play TA enough to unlock Heroe's Ascent
4. Get owned in HA by Europe, observe said opponents that owned you.
5. Remake your build and try again in other areas for more experience
-5a. Holiday Games like Snowball Fights and Dragon Arena help teach you how to Kite
-5b. Competitve missions help build leadership skills through command on the fly, though leechers are as common as flies on sh*t
-5c. Alliance Battles teach cooperation through focus-fire on key targets
6. Make Friends in any form of PvP. It comes in handy.

Axis · Jan 11, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by phallanxian

whats the best way to go from pve to pvp play such as

professions to start with as i currently have a warrior
where to play RA ect
where to find builds and any other tips

any help would be appreciated

Basicly you wil have to unlearn most of the things you have learned so far becouse pvp is somthing totaly different than pve. As you experiment in pvp you wil notice that movement and good positioning is very imprtant so having good builds doesnt make you a winner. Knowing your opponents is also very important. There are no good or bad classes in GVG, there are just good and bad players that know or dont know how to play their roles.

Many skills that look useless is pve are great in pvp and other way. learn to use them. And be carefull how you use 2-3 sec cast time spells coz they are very easy to interupt.

Warskull · Jan 11, 2007, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

use www.guildwarswiki.com

then use builds section.

That is just wrong. Guild Wiki is one of the worst places to go for PvP info. They clearly don't know much about PvP or build making. They are some good builds in there, but there is such a deluge of total crap it can make the good stuff hard to find. In addition a new player won't be able to spot the different between the good stuff and the crap and they will likely end up running some horrible build or following some idiotic PvP advice (like using mind shock to see how much energy enemy eles have.)

I would say the best place to get some builds would be obs mode. Get an idea for what skills the top players are using and play around with those skills. Realize some characters don't work outside of the full 8-man build, but it should give you a general idea of what is usable.

Then you just have to play and be willing to play anything. The big thing about getting better at PvP is being willing to learn. When you lose to something ask yourself why and make note of what killed you.

Jeff Highwind · Jan 11, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Yea, Copypasta is always bound for failure. Plus they still have Rit Lord down for a viable HA build.

Jan 10, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22	#1
phallanxian Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006	PvE to PvP whats the best way to go from pve to pvp play such as professions to start with as i currently have a warrior where to play RA ect where to find builds and any other tips any help would be appreciated

Jan 10, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16	#8
Lord Mendes Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Derka-Derka Land Guild: Steel Phoenix (StP) Profession: E/	Build up PvP contacts and friends. This is essential if you want to get anywhere. Last edited by Lord Mendes; Jan 10, 2007 at 04:33 PM // 16:33..

Jan 10, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#2
Neo Nugget Site Contributor Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	use www.guildwarswiki.com then use builds section.

Jan 10, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44	#3
Lets Get to Healing Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: You want see? Guild: True Gods of War [True] Profession: Mo/W	Fort Aspenwood is a great place to start PvP.

Jan 10, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#4
B Ephekt Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Team Crystalline [TC] Profession: Mo/	To be honest, most of the pvp builds on the wiki are complete garbage. I wouldn't rely on that to get an idea of what's being run in pvp at a given time. Watching observer mode for the specific format you're interested in (HA or GvG) would be a much better alternative. Aside from that, actually posting in the pvp section of this website would probably help greatly as well.

Jan 10, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55	#5
Earendil Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005	If you're really a PvP beginner, my suggestion would be to start at the Great temple of Balthazar then do the wholed tutorial stuff up to Zaishen challenge. Those NPCs have a lot more patience then most PCs and you have a lot to learn from them. Then move to Ra, be prepared to take a lot of flak and learn from what other people are playing ..from there on its very variable .... Be ready to change. As a basic idea - you cannot do in PvP what you did in PvE - especially Warrior wise. Forget the concept of "tank". And please don't bring mending - you would get laughed at and its bad for morale. Be prepared to make a PvP char and toy a bit with the options. Observer mode is great if you want to turn "serious" about PvP.

Jan 10, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58	#6
RotteN Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	most of the builds on guildwiki are indeed utter crap. best way to "start" pvp is in lowlevel arena's, either Random arena or competitive missions like Fort Aspenwood. also, forums like iQ's forum ( http://www.team-iq.net ) have a lot of valuable pvp information, and you can always go ask any questions about mechanics / equipment / ... there aswell (use search first though, it might have been asked before)

Jan 10, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01	#7
gul dan Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Menos Mau Profession: Mo/	read PvP Primer and State of the Game there are some helpful articles there =]

Jan 10, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#9
Franco Power Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK Profession: W/	Best advice I can give it to you aswel is be patient and prepare to be dedicated.

Jan 11, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59	#10
Infectious Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand FTW Guild: Ex Talionis [Law]	Don't get stressed when you fail at something, step back, ask somone why you failed/figure it out yourself, learn from it, rinse and repeat. This won't work in random arena

Jan 11, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16	#12
Infectious Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand FTW Guild: Ex Talionis [Law]	Don't get stressed when you fail at something, step back, ask somone why you failed/figure it out yourself, learn from it, rinse and repeat. This won't work in random arena

Jan 11, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04	#13
bart Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	don't get angry and frustrated when PVP ppl don't want to group with you and call you a noob.

Jan 11, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42	#14
Jeff Highwind Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: R/Mo	Best way to prep for PvP as a PvE ( aka My experience) 1. Grab Green weaponry spec'd to your current build. 2. Play RA enough to just unlock TA 3. Play TA enough to unlock Heroe's Ascent 4. Get owned in HA by Europe, observe said opponents that owned you. 5. Remake your build and try again in other areas for more experience -5a. Holiday Games like Snowball Fights and Dragon Arena help teach you how to Kite -5b. Competitve missions help build leadership skills through command on the fly, though leechers are as common as flies on sh*t -5c. Alliance Battles teach cooperation through focus-fire on key targets 6. Make Friends in any form of PvP. It comes in handy.

Jan 11, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17	#17
Jeff Highwind Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: R/Mo	Yea, Copypasta is always bound for failure. Plus they still have Rit Lord down for a viable HA build.